[Marilyn Michele]

Feeling the vibe of Self-Heal… She showed up in my open studio time…

I love the way she sits near people movements so often. I go to an open field park. And there along the path is Self-Heal. So so friendly

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[Marilyn Michele]

Valarie, lovely to see you here.

And what a rich lineage and history you have. It is rich to read and hear. Thank you for sharing.

I just visited your region for a first time last month. And what a spectacular region of our world. The weather was sunny and mild.

I found Sajah through a lecture he offered on astrology and herbalism. I felt he was talking language I understood. As a newer astrologer I was eager to find other’s who sat with plants AND tuned into the language of astrology.

I am curious about some of your garden/farming experiences. As a child which plants became noticeable at first to you? And I would wonder which has been a long fast friend through the years?

Lovely again to see and hear from you.

X

[Marilyn Michele]

Here here sister-mother. What worthy challenges… as mother. I am ever grateful for the privilege of being mom. I started life mothering my sister, which she did thank me for ONCE in her adult life. Mostly a generous mocking a child would appropriately do. But I feel I have had many expressions of mom come through me in this life. And I am grateful. Recently I found my daughter, a mother of a ten-ager and a teenager herself mothering me in her “free range style” telling me to dust it off (I had softly carefully fallen with my bike) and get on with it! She was right. I was fine. It was a great role reversal. We laughed and welcomed the changes. So I took the mom rod going down my spine out. Various elders of our lineage have recently past. And so we liberated me to elder. And this is a surprisingly fresh journey as well.

I would love to hear about your boys. And you as mom. Such worthy worthy worthy expressions. And we all mom uniquely. That too is crucial, know thyself, love they self and in that parent.

[Marilyn Michele]

Oh wow home grown chocolate… that sounds sooo good. I appreciate hearing from you. And I so empathize. There is lots for all of us to learn here.

My mind has a hard time accepting the oxalate picture. But my body has responded so clearly.

I am sitting in my regular foot soak. I find Dead Sea minerals, baking soda and a pinch of borax is a big help. I could not figure out these rashes I had on my wrists and ankles. My skin is a talker, so I am good at ready the type of skin condition. I pulled out Marie Flints book to figure. It was my kidneys. They were so overloaded they were using my skin as a second kidney. My skin break out was severe and bizarre. Tending to oxalates is the ONLY thing that has begun to clear it up – s l o w l y. Margi’s book is so accurate.

May your work learning pitch be doable. And I really appreciate your presence.

[Marilyn Michele]

THAT! His sunflower is amazing. OOooh what delights you must have with him. Coolio. So fun to hear. My son is a Taurus moon (9house), Leo rising and Aries sun. He is salt of the earth, and throughout life, those around him enjoy his humorous and compassionate feet on the ground expressions of love. He owns and runs a feed store. Helping folk with animal husbandry/plants/home fixings. Just up his alley. With a keen business acumen. It is remarkable to be a mom, yes? And keep sharing I will enjoy it all.

It is curious that the sharp seed head comes in the later stages of echinacea. Is it like the sharp edges of our aged? ; )

As Saturn moves into Aries, I keep considering the over stated notion of Aries/Mars?Warrior? (That is my pov, point of view.) Might we have our sharp protections/protectors come with one’s full ripening. As it does with echinacea. And in that, rarely would warrior’ness be called up. Protection would abound. The fluidity of boundaries seen, with yet a maintaining of one’s life force.

I sense if we applied sharp protection as in the ripening of echinacea our understanding of Mars / Aries we would enfold elderly wisdom and be referenced accordingly.

How would that look? What would protection be?

[Marilyn Michele]

Right on. Thank you Douglas. I have already passed on the book link. I look forward to this addition.

[Marilyn Michele]

A plant of protection… I felt the same. I placed myself dealing with the death of elders in my family under the echinacea cap. I found it curious that she lifts her petals first to plunge them downward as she ripens in her bloom. Dropping down has a very yin quality. As I consider what your son offered, and the full downward drop of the petals… I would surmise echinacea is a female warrior. What do you feel?

[Marilyn Michele]

Douglas, what a rich reference. I was delighted to read last, knowing the link sat below my eyes gaze that the book is offered online… yes I will be jumping on that. Right on. Thank you.

[Marilyn Michele]

Oh such generous offering Katerina… yes yes full yes!

[Marilyn Michele]

Ah so lovely to have a sister, being so close in age, in this life of health wellness and discoveries. Here Here to moving from where we are. How ever that looks. Lovely that we have found the sources of Evolutionary Herbalism as such aids… even in our later years of living.

I did feel I went in strong on my reply. I am a little taken back that few are oxalate aware. I feel a steady headwind with the subject. Thank you for your grace on your response.

Tending to my oxalates has aided me steadily. And I was looking to swap out information and understand how to fine tune it even more, with wise medicine making. All in good time….

How do you approach a swarm of new information? What are your discoveries on how to approach and engage?

I enjoyed your voice. Thank you.

X

[Marilyn Michele]

I appreciate what you are offering. Thank you.

The question which lifts for me is the volume that can be handled by healthy bacteria. When a daily normal is up to 160-220mg and my midday snack might be chocolate bites (95-120mg), with yet some almond milk (66 mg -160mg -homemade is higher) in my cup of black tea (25-30 mg). I have blown out my daily total in one sitting.

If I have whole grain bread and a mixed green salad with spinach I am in extreme overload.

I really appreciate your engagement. I find plants are such great teachers. How do I take them medicinally and not overdo my oxalate load?

[Marilyn Michele]

Rebekah,

I am thinking of you. Kidneys and their expression in our bodies… so broadly impactful. And they root us. Rooting in our busy busy world is nearly odd. Feeding our rooting. What do you do or what have you found roots you?

…and your journey with nutrition. As you move through your research on oxalates, yet again, please keep me informed.

[Marilyn Michele]

Chad, my apologies on coming on so strong. I hear you on being new to the research and such. I will check with my research practitioner friend who is astounding on her research skills on verifying the date and accuracy of oxalate tables.

Experientially I get so frustrated when I compare the lists with what I have come to find as trustworthy. Experientially trustworthy.

Well done on your investigations. Let me know what you find and where you are looking.

Once I found Sally’s information as being accurate, I just keep my head down trying to manage my diet and body symptoms. And that is why I want to understand the nature of our medicine making and oxalates.

Blessings. I appreciate your integrity and investments.

X

[Marilyn Michele]

I concur, fully with your feelings and vibe here.

I cannot speak to why the toxicity of oxalates has been missed. Of course my response is that Sally knows. She has numerous other folk (researcher’s, practitioners and such) that she references. And health administration is her field. I am not a science gal.

But I can speak to why it is hard to “believe” or understand the oxalate impacts. In broad generalities we like things to be specific and nailed down. That is a hubris of our medical white coats. The need for definitive results eliminates a fuller picture. And that is precisely why I have not been effectively diagnosed time and again.

I had chronic fatigue/ ME back in the 1980. I went through so many doctors then to get anyone who could navigate this with me. The symptoms were so varied depending upon the person. It defied classifications which were available at that time. I landed with a second generation MD whose father did leading research on gut health. He was an Allergist/Immunologist, and a Nutritionist who knew nutrition like few did.

Late in life I find out that as well I am a “downwinder.” I was down wind from atomic bomb testing. Blah blah blah… all the things of how and when. (I was in my mother’s belly, and just a toddler.) How does this show up? In a myriad of ways. Lists and lists are now generated. The common denominator is now understood clearly- the endocrine system, namely the thyroid. But still I don’t have answers for what I might show from my toxic exposure.

Is oxalate toxicity the massive bucket, (a shit bucket) for holding all the adverse health conditions? I find it hard to believe myself. Is it too far fetched? And yet…. I experience it as a very big bucket.

Due to my life’s expression, I have been given to tune into my body. Tune in like fine tune into my body with keen awareness. And I have had a batch of acute to chronic illness to experience such awareness. Not the same illnesses. And a couple were killers. So the depths of attunement have been exercised.

Oxalates are a thing. Straight up. Not just in me, but in my herb “study” group. Some of us met and began our own side meet up. We are whistling along sharing on this herb and that. We are having a blast, while yet tending to various health conditions. We each know body adversity like few will. And then we began to examine oxalates. So this is not just my soap box.

I am bringing it up here in our tea house to gain insight on what of our herbal practice is clear of oxalates and how might we make oxalate free medicine.

I took the Alchemical Herbalist course to make medicine. Medicine for me and my family. And I took the Vital Practitioner course to understand my body systems better and understand what it is to be a vital practitioner. My interface with my body is also an interface with plants. This cannot be separated. My relationship with my teacher’s and friends, the plants is cosmically profound.

Does not the delicious complexities with profound simplicity of body astound? I marvel at the gift of tending to my body, this vessel of and within all that is – in illness and in health. Dont we miss many things due to the influence and residual (karma) of our culture and the lineage of our vessels. To find we are missing something, is marking new territory of understanding. Welcome the chaos of discovering.

There is new strong headway in oxalate awareness. Sally is very reasonable in costs (I started by buying her intro packet for under 3 dollars.1) and she offers a variety of ways to digest the saturation of information. I went with her for those reasons. Blessings be yours. And may you have wind in your sails as you move.

And again, how about the oxalates in our herbal medicine making?

X

[Marilyn Michele]

Jill I would be asking the same questions and feel the same frustrations. Your question is best addressed by Sally K. Norton. She has taken this on and is very clear on the science.

Let me put a word of caution in first up. You do not want to change your diet quickly. Do not dive into a low oxalate diet straight away.

Our culture has worn us down with diets. No question. Even if we don’t do the diets, it seems we end up defending our eating choices with others or in our minds.

I can be definitive that your diet is extremely high in oxalates. And while you might be targeting your thoughts on this cancer, with a high oxalate diet we often don’t see the implications until conditions are fully expressed.

I can only speak to what I would do. I would read Sally’s book “Toxic Superfoods.” There are numerous practical bits. As well her book “Data” which I bought online to put into all my devices for an easy reference is the most accurate source on oxalate content in foods.

And I would just begin to lower the amount of an oxalate food. I started by giving up grains. Then I gave up having morning green tea and I went back to coffee. Then I let go of my chocolate.

I was coming out of “bad blood syndrome” from a toxic backlash. I had remarkably improved. But I could not turn a bend of stable healing as my kidneys were acting up in ways that I had never experienced. Exhausted and down trodden. Being rather “left out at sea” by practitioners, I felt just the logic that oxalates were contributing had me stepping in. And when in 6 months of a slow back out, I had bodily evidence, I was all in. Some symptoms and conditions which were so stuck remedied. It was a small window of clear symptoms which faded as oxalate stores began to release. But now I knew a crucial element was oxalates.

So I have honed in on a doable diet. Discipline is my middle name. And I have suffered greatly. So I am the odd one at a party. I am not able to give a list to the host. But and this is a big but… I am improving. I am stable (in a fragile way) for a first time in 9 years. And some stability is like gold. Precccciiiooouuuus. So precious.

Best to you. Keep me informed. I am not able to lead you, but I will commiserate and be able to empathize – should or if you want.